MIR - Sat Mar 7th [Archive] - S197-Mustang.com

rygen

03-06-2009, 01:02 PM

Just came off an all nighter....I'm going to head home, prep the car and head out to MIR tomorrow. I know Adam is in, who else is going?????

boss281

03-06-2009, 02:52 PM

I'm doing Mason Dixon Sunday...

MarcSpaz

03-06-2009, 04:05 PM

I can go from 10 to noon, maybe 1. I will have to leave the house around 8 AM to make it work, but it will be worth it.

rygen

03-06-2009, 07:09 PM

I will get there around 10ish. C'mon John, MD? MIR has better prep and DA.

boss281

03-06-2009, 09:03 PM

Guys, sorry, I wish we had set this up a few days back. Zach is working tomorrow so we can both race Sunday. I have to diagnose a fuel pressure problem (or faulty gauge, maybe) tomorrow anyhow.

We'll catch up at the track in a week or so. But let's see where are cars are sitting.

Art called and left a message from Bradenton. Running consistent, good turnout, sounds like he's having fun. Wish I was there!!

rygen

03-06-2009, 09:20 PM

Very cool. Hope he does well. I may have to roll up to MD Sunday, its only an hour away. We will see.

2k05gt

03-06-2009, 09:56 PM

I will be there, I am going to follow Marc. I was trying to get my son to go but he has to work.. Man my car is dirty and I have to change the Oil... bummer

MarcSpaz

03-06-2009, 10:05 PM

the extra weight from the dirt is gonna slow you down. Better hit the car wash... LOL

boss281

03-06-2009, 10:38 PM

Very cool. Hope he does well. I may have to roll up to MD Sunday, its only an hour away. We will see.

Gates open at 11am, TnT from 12-5...

MarcSpaz

03-06-2009, 11:37 PM

I have to work Sunday or I would be there. I was originally planning on going too.

rygen

03-07-2009, 07:49 AM

I'm going down to the garage to strap on the DR's and leaving soon.

boss281

03-07-2009, 03:53 PM

How'd you all do?

Depending on the weather, we may make a last minute change and drive to Capitol Raceway in Anne Arundel County. The northern edge of the state appears to be getting rain about 1pm or so tomorrow, so we're going to see what the forecast says at 10am. Crofton doesn't seem to be getting any rain until 10pm. We just want a few runs to see where the cars are sitting as is.

I'll try to remember to post our intentions in the morning...

John

John

rygen

03-07-2009, 04:12 PM

Well, my mph was down, and I had driver mod issues. I was not stalling the car up correctly, having hard time finding the sweet spot, and tried the transbrake once and rolled through the beams. But it was still good to get the winter cobwebs off the car and the driver.

I may go to Mason Dixon tomorrow and try my luck there. Best I got out of the car was 11.99@112. Still a good time to hang out with friends and race.

boss281

03-07-2009, 04:26 PM

Hey, at least it was 11s. Watch the weather and this forum tomorrow, and I'll update whether we're going to Mason Dixon or Capitol. It's all depends on this damn rain!

rygen

03-07-2009, 04:33 PM

Will do. Scott brought up a DA calculator on his iPhone. DA was at 800, in March..at MIR! I was hoping for negative DA's and a new best. Oh well. You going to GOTC John?

boss281

03-07-2009, 05:24 PM

I'll be at GOOTC for a bit of racing and socializing--kind of pulls everyone out of hibernation. I think the first NVMC drag rental is the following week, so I'll concentrate on driving there.

Turns out I did have a fuel problem. After the new delete plates in January, a new tune was developed, but I couldn't take the car out much due to the weather. When I did last week, the damn car was idling weird and fuel pressure seemed all over. JJ at Woodbine Motorsports datalogged briefly this morning (Saturday! - that's customer service) and he found a fuel load issue. The adjustment he made to the tune was night and day and I spent part of today running around terrorizing Carroll County. The powerband seems very smooth and 6500rpm is coming up VERY fast, so I'm anxious to see if my seat of the pants indicator is right or I'm just all wet. We'll see tomorrow.

2k05gt

03-07-2009, 10:46 PM

Let me know how it does, Mine is all over the place as well
Another strange thing. Today I ran 5 times.

I did not reflash the tune I was runnig the tune since Nov 2008
I had filled up my tank yesterday so last night I connected a hose the the end of the fuel filter and drained the tank to just over a 1/4, by the time I made it to MIR was had 5 miles to empty, I brought a 2.5 Gal Can of the fuel I pumped out the night before and put it back in.

First Run (69.8 Deg 30.18 49% Hum DA 671 Ft) (the car bogged of the line)
60' - 1.893
330 - 5.352
1/8 - 8.208
mph - 85.97
1000- 10.696
1/4 - 12.803
MPH - 107.12

Re-flashed tune and installed a PS Delete Belt. (71.8 Deg 30.17 46% Hum DA 797 Ft)
60' - 1.766
330 - 5.139
1/8 - 7.955
mph - 86.91
1000- 7.955 ????
1/4 - 12.510
MPH - 105.93 (Same as the ones below)

PS Delete. (69.8 Deg 30.16 49% Hum DA 693 Ft)
60' - 1.814
330 - 5.209
1/8 - 8.032
mph - 86.79
1000- 10.499
1/4 - 12.591
MPH - 105.93 (same as before)

PS Delete. (71.6 Deg 30.14 46% Hum DA 831 Ft)
60' - 1.777
330 - 5.142
1/8 - 7.955
mph - 87.10
1000- 10.415
1/4 - 12.503
MPH - 108.00

Put the PS Belt to normal (71.6 Deg 30.12 46% Hum DA 854 Ft)
60' - 1.777
330 - 5.146
1/8 - 7.957
mph - 87.07
1000- 10.418
1/4 - 12.506
MPH - 105.93 (Same as the others)

Again the Car Falls Flat on it's face in 4th gear.
I just don't understand the MPH 105.93 on all three runs, I think a malfunction with the speed gun.....Because the last 2 runs were identical except the MPH. I also PROVED that the PS Delete Belt does nothing at all.

boss281

03-08-2009, 12:06 AM

The weather report for up here is looking better for tomorrow afternoon, but my son isn't home yet so I still can't confirm which track we'll be running. Have to pick this up in the morning...

boss281

03-08-2009, 09:19 AM

We're bailing on racing today--something's come up. Next weekend!

rygen

03-08-2009, 11:56 AM

I'm bailing too. 60% chance of rain/off and on showers, and the humidity is up to 60%. I'll stay home and nurse my wounds from shitty ET's yesterday. LOL.

2k05gt

03-08-2009, 12:36 PM

I'm bailing too. 60% chance of rain/off and on showers, and the humidity is up to 60%. I'll stay home and nurse my wounds from shitty ET's yesterday. LOL.

I here ya, Nasty Day.
Marc is not too happy either, We nee to put our heads together and figure out whats up with his car. I think it's because of the stock clutch. he's putting 331 hp to the ground and the stocker is killing him. his car nose dives off the line, he can launch at 7K, the the comes off the line ok but noses in after it gets moving.

John,
Talk Marc into going to GOOTC and drive his car, maybe you can figure it out?

rygen

03-08-2009, 12:43 PM

Marc,

Can you repost your dyno sheets, I'd like to see the curve on them.

MarcSpaz

03-08-2009, 12:46 PM

Sure, I'll do it when I get home... I pulled a perfect light. That's the first time "nothing" (000) was the highlight of my day.

rygen

03-08-2009, 01:35 PM

Scott, do you know your AF for yesterday, also, how old was the gas in your car? When was the last time you cleaned your fuel filter?

boss281

03-08-2009, 01:39 PM

At the last minute Zach said **ck it and went to Mason Dixon. Said 10 cars were there, but the humidity was killing his times by a full second, so he came home after a few runs.

We have the windows open in the house and are sweating up a storm!!!

rygen

03-08-2009, 01:41 PM

Sounds like a repeat of yesterday. With the rain coming in tonight, humidity must be up. That's what sucks about today, you can have the temps down, but humidity can still be high killing et's.

boss281

03-08-2009, 01:41 PM

John,
Talk Marc into going to GOOTC and drive his car, maybe you can figure it out?

We can swap cars for a run or two if he wants. I think you may be right on the clutch. With mine, you don't have to think about babying it--just drop it at 5500rpm and run. With my stock clutch I ALWAYS slipped it off the line. That car should be doing 12.5s...

boss281

03-08-2009, 01:43 PM

Forecast for next weekend is currently in the low 50s and sunny.

rygen

03-08-2009, 02:05 PM

Now thats what I'm talking about, mine shaft air.

MarcSpaz

03-08-2009, 05:39 PM

Ok, here's what I got. If I get my new clutch installed before GOOTC, I will go. There is no way I can take it like it is. I drove about 70 miles today and I could smell it cooking every time I started from a stand-still or on a semi-hard shift. I am going to put the Spec Stage 2+ in on Thursday or Friday. Also, within the next couple of weeks I am putting in a set of 4.56:1 gears and an Eaton TruTrac.

Due to the unexpected hardware failures, it looks like I have to wait on the heads for about 2/3 months :(

As for my Dyno sheet, Todd... This is a before and after LT's and cams. You can see my power-band is pretty solid between 4k-6k and my peek HP/TQ are up 30+ HP/TQ from about 5k-7k.

Given I was told to expect a max of about 17 rwhp/tq per mod and I got 15+ per mod, I am guessing they are indexed correctly. I probably should have logged a run or two.

http://pcspaz.com/images/Cams-LT_Dyno.jpg

2k05gt

03-08-2009, 06:43 PM

Scott, do you know your AF for yesterday, also, how old was the gas in your car? When was the last time you cleaned your fuel filter?
A/F was 12.8 I just changed the Fuel Filter and the GAS was just filled up the night before, I had to drain some gas out because I did not want to run with over 1/2 tank, I drained it out to just over 1/4 before I went to the track

2k05gt

03-08-2009, 11:28 PM

MarcSpaz

03-09-2009, 08:57 AM

yep. good way to fix top-end flat spots going through the traps. LOL

rygen

03-09-2009, 08:06 PM

firestang70

03-09-2009, 08:53 PM

Marc,

FYI. You got treed by a guy (me) that averaged a 1.4 RT last season. Just thought you would like to know.

Marc I would be upset. That is the biggest slap Todd can come up with. Never ever let that black car tree you. j/k

MarcSpaz

03-10-2009, 12:30 PM

Damn, your car puzzles me. Put a 4r70 in it!

Here are some videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocxeYSyycmY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTSQ0bx4inY

Marc,

FYI. You got treed by a guy (me) that averaged a 1.4 RT last season. Just thought you would like to know.

A.) Link 1 give me an error = This video is a duplicate of a previously uploaded video.

2.) I didn't get treed, I was very shallow and my clutch was slipping. It took a second to get the car moving eventhough the clutch was fully engaged.

D.) When I get my car fixed, we'll try that again...

Marc I would be upset. That is the biggest slap Todd can come up with. Never ever let that black car tree you. j/k

He is hallucinagizen. Like I said, before the clutch started slipping I pulled a perfect light. Before that I was pulling .003, .002. I'll straighten him out later. LOL

rygen

03-10-2009, 01:55 PM

Here you go Marc,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYgKoaykWBE&feature=channel_page

You are shallow? I didn't know that. One of my main goals this season is to cut good lights, so, youre on, lets line em up again. Best RT buys the other a beer.

MarcSpaz

03-10-2009, 02:32 PM

ouch... that was painful to watch.

I had my car staged shallow smart guy ;-) Just call me Shallow Spaz.

Sure, why not? I can afford a beer.

boss281

03-11-2009, 05:43 PM

You guys going this weekend? Saturday looks the best (sunny, 50s) and I can make TnT at either MD or MIR...we can hold a mini meeting if you want...

John

MarcSpaz

03-11-2009, 06:00 PM

My clutch will be too fresh to race, but I'll go to hang out and take pics, etc...

rygen

03-11-2009, 09:15 PM

I'm going to MD on Saturday.

boss281

03-11-2009, 10:25 PM

I'll plan on MIR then. I still haven't bought my tires for the Bogart wheels, so I'll have to use my drag radials...

2k05gt

03-12-2009, 04:50 PM

Mini meeting at MD Saturday then Right?
Marc is Photo Guy,
Got it.. ;)

boss281

03-12-2009, 05:38 PM

Update: I just saw the forecast for the weekend and both days are looking a bit hosed. Just a slight chance now but I need to keep an eye on it. I'm not driving two hours each way for just 1-2 hours racing....

2k05gt

03-12-2009, 09:42 PM

Yuck :mad: Looks like the weekend is going down the Toilet, This morning PCloudy now 40% chance Rain

Mar 14 Saturday (http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxdetail/21713?dayNum=2)Showers possible in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the low 40s.
Mar 15 Sunday (http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxdetail/21713?dayNum=3)Occasional showers possible. Highs in the upper 50s and lows in the upper 30s.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/weekend/21713?from=36hr_topnav_driving

boss281

03-12-2009, 09:45 PM

From the national forecast, this is mainly looking like a southern event that may trickle up into Maryland. So MIR is looking less likely, but I bet Mason Dixon may stay dry.

Scott I'll just get up early on Saturday and watch the forecast. If Saturday is hosed I'll do the same on Sunday. If that's hosed, well, there's always next weekend.

2k05gt

03-13-2009, 10:12 AM

Yea I woke up this morning with 2 inches of Snow on the ground ...

Two weeks there's GOOTC at MIR so March will not be a total wash :D

boss281

03-13-2009, 04:29 PM

I was pulling into my Bethesda office this morning about 6:30 and snow flurries came drifting by, but 2 inches of snow!?

I'm moving my race plans to Mason Dixon Sunday afternoon, since the current forecast shows rain ending at 6am. Will keep watching the weather but I want to get this damn car out!

rygen

03-13-2009, 07:03 PM

I am shooting for MD as well, see if the weather holds.

boss281

03-14-2009, 07:37 AM

Weather looking hosed now. At this rate GOOTC may be the first opportunity...

rygen

03-14-2009, 09:47 AM

40% chance of rain, I may wait till tomorrow to go.