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rygen
02-28-2009, 06:44 PM
Anyone got some preliminary reports on this thing? Anyone place a pre-order? I heard there is a 27rwhp gain with this?

Here are the details:

http://www.cnlperformance.com/images/machined%20intake%205.jpg

Source:

http://www.cnlperformance.com/05_3v.html


2005+ C&L 3-VALVE MUSTANG INTAKE MANIFOLD
COMING VERY SOON!
C&L 3V Intake Manifold (U.S. Patent No. D580,547)
Product Update 02/02/09 The entire first run of manifolds are finished, and dyno testing for different configurations is currently underway. Testing on a COMPLETELY stock vehicle with full factory exhaust has shown solid improvements in the upper RPM range. We have found that the plenum/manifold total volume has a definite effect on power throughout the entire RPM range, so we made some final changes to the plenum cover mold last month.

We also have tested a single blade throttle body (which will not fit on the factory intake) and it has shown additional gains of anywhere between 4 to 8 HP (above 4,200 RPM) over the factory throttle body.

We will be testing other throttle bodies as well, but we feel that the single blade throttle body is going to outperform all of the traditional "dual bore" throttle bodies. Due to the cost and additional tuning requirements for the single blade throttle body, it might only be an option for those who are looking to pick up every last bit of additional power. The addition of the new intake manifold does require special tuning adjustments, once we have these optimized, and are satisfied that we have found the ideal combination, then we will be publishing our results here on the website.

The fact that we are able to obtain solid improvements on a completely stock application is a strong indication that this product is going to REALLY shine on higher horsepower applications. We will be posting results from multiple vehicle applications, so keep an eye on our website for updates. The information provided on this page is intended to disclose our findings during the development of this product, so that our customers will FULLY understand what can and can not be expected from an aftermarket intake developed for this application.


I found some other threads on it:

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129436

http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9464&highlight=c%26l


ation.
boss281
02-28-2009, 07:22 PM
I've preordered one, and Doug (our Bamachips guy) is saying it's been positive, especially at upper RPM ranges. Word has it that real results aren't getting published due to the magazine article review exclusive...who knows...
rygen
02-28-2009, 07:25 PM
I wonder if you will see a mph or two out of it. Does it move the power band? Or just help it breathe more up top?
boss281
02-28-2009, 07:30 PM
This of course is all over the internet, and just with cold air kit and tune. I think it's also the previous pre production run as some of the problems Doug notes are being addressed:

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t32/jwgroovin/CL3VDynoTestVsStockIntake.jpg
rygen
02-28-2009, 07:32 PM
Wow, so it increases the top end, but does not move the powerband..much. Yea, I would have pre-ordered it too!
chad05gt
02-28-2009, 08:06 PM
looking forward to adding it and a tb this summer; IF all is what it claims...
boss281
02-28-2009, 09:18 PM
looking forward to adding it and a tb this summer; IF all is what it claims...

I have a GT500 throttle body and the C&L racer tube to go on with it when it arrives. The plans are to do the manifold, dyno, race it, then add the TB and inlet, dyno and race it.
chad05gt
03-01-2009, 10:31 AM
I have a GT500 throttle body and the C&L racer tube to go on with it when it arrives. The plans are to do the manifold, dyno, race it, then add the TB and inlet, dyno and race it.


Cool...

... save the info for THIS site;) Who is doing your tuning?
boss281
03-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Cool...

... save the info for THIS site;) Who is doing your tuning?

It's funny you say that--I'm not quite sure what I will be publishing in terms of progress between now and Nov 1! Bwahahaha...

For tuning, I go exclusively to JJ at Woodbine Motorsports in central Maryland--he does my cars, and my son's. JJ has been a Ford performance mechanic for as long as I can remember, and has his own shop. He's got quite a name building hipo Lightnings and there are always 3-4 of these on his lot in various stages of rebuilds, plus a half a dozen Mustangs. He'll be a sponsor soon once we work out some details, and will have his own subforum shortly. I think he's a whipple dealer based on the damn superchargers laying around, and he fabs/develops and produces custom components. it's quite a shop.

John
MarcSpaz
03-03-2009, 06:23 PM
Doug has it for pre-order here.

http://www.bamachips.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18_4_10_60&products_id=214&zenid=2594dcbd877813f15c6fe0021407b92e

Doug has info published on his site. I also talked to him on the phone. He said he gets about 17 rwhp on a stock GT and 30 - 50 rwhp on a cammed 4.6 with LT's (depending on the setup).

When I do the heads I am getting one for sure. Also getting a TB (not sure which one yet) and the C&L Race CAI.
boss281
03-03-2009, 06:49 PM
Come on already, let's get the damn things shipped to us preorders!
chad05gt
03-03-2009, 08:46 PM
30 - 50 w/ Mother Thumpers and Cody's headers:eek:

30ish would be bad ass on h/c setup...

Glad I got my tb :), I cannot wait to hear your results...

may have to get one;)
MarcSpaz
03-03-2009, 09:33 PM
I am sure I will have over 475 FWHP / 400 rwhp while NA, stock compression.

Sat down with the wife today to work out this year's "mod budget". My total cost for all the go fast parts will be around $10,500 and a total vehicle mod cost (supporting mods) $20,600+. That's no labor BTW....

GD! I need a cheaper hobbie.
boss281
03-03-2009, 10:02 PM
Maybe I should build car MODELS instead. For a minute there I thought it was going to be a light year for a change, then I started adding it all up. The "only" things left on my list for the '05 are the heads, cams and new hood. About $5k, maybe. Well, add another $1000 for the paint and touch ups on the car. Then again, if I keep the convertible I have an easy $3000 I want to do there. Throw in the car trailer, say $2k used, a used F-150, say $20k, oh never mind...
MarcSpaz
03-03-2009, 11:16 PM
I always recommend you come up with a goal, a build plan, and stick to it.
boss281
03-04-2009, 07:49 AM
Ok, then I want it all!
chad05gt
03-04-2009, 08:50 AM
A trailer is on my list this year as well... maybe a lift...


and, Im sure Ill break something else:o


Gotcha intake yet???
boss281
03-04-2009, 09:18 AM
No intake, I'm hearing late March, probably after the magazine article has officially hit the streets.
boss281
03-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Now I'm hearing "pre-orders may starting getting sent out late next week". That would be cool and the timing perfect, assuming I can get to the track Saturday or Sunday.
MarcSpaz
03-14-2009, 10:16 PM
That would be great! I can't wait to see what that does for you. I am 99% sure I am going to buy one. It would be cool to hear some "real world" first hand experiances.
boss281
04-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Reports are coming in they are arriving, finally. Doug said mine maybe by tomorrow!
boss281
04-21-2009, 10:42 PM
Just got a note from Doug:

"I spoke with C&L today and I think they are planning or have sent your intake either today or in the morning, we'll keep our fingers crossed..

Thanks,

Douglas Studdard"

And the MM&FF June issue with the C&L manifold review hit the newstands today. Interesting coincidence!
MarcSpaz
04-22-2009, 08:15 AM
Wow, I think not. LOL
boss281
04-22-2009, 08:44 AM
Woodbine Motorsports is going to upgrade my tune tomorrow to tweak some of the higher RPM problems I've experienced. No promises but something worth trying. He consulted with SCT guru John Lund and found a few opportunities to exploit. Let's see if I can make some progress at SuperStallions. Then, I can add the manifold, get a new tune, and give it all a shot. The magazine article is claiming 25hp+, so even if it's 20, or 15, I'll be happy ,especially if it's at the upper rpm...
MarcSpaz
04-22-2009, 10:51 AM
Doug told me he got 30 on an NA car and 50 on an FI car. I would hope for the 30...
boss281
04-23-2009, 07:22 PM
It shipped and arrives tomorrow.

I also got my delete plates tuned today (no dyno yet) with a/f monitored. I'm going to run it at Superstallions, then drop it off at Woodbine Motorsports. He'll do a before dyno, throw on the manifold, the dyno tune right after so we'll have good conditions for before and after. Then I'll race it again next Friday.
2k05gt
04-23-2009, 09:45 PM
Take some Pics of the Install. Love to see it, I might be up next week to meet JJ, I sent a friend up to get some work done on his car.
chad05gt
10-16-2009, 10:53 AM
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